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goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

aldwickk - 25 Apr 2012 19:18 - 16377 of 65466

Wonder if his related to that other Welsh wind bag , Neil Kinnock

Fred1new - 25 Apr 2012 19:45 - 16378 of 65466


If you are referring to my earlier remark "Because I was misled by the tory press, tory party and various posters into believing that the tories were going to walk the last election and then walk on water after it."

as 2517 recalls I was taking the proverbial "mickey" once again.

As far as your remark is concerned the apology I think is due from you not from me. The comments were made by you.

Personally, although it may be hard to believe I even doubt the papers frequently and myself sometimes.


The latter often proves to have been unnecessary!


Another, piece of history for you. I once clipped Neil across the ears. (50 odd years ago.)

aldwickk - 25 Apr 2012 20:15 - 16379 of 65466

" I was taking the proverbial "mickey" once again."

No you wasn't , you are a liar and a pompous self opinionated tosser

Why didn't you vote Labour or any-other party if you thought the Tory's would be such a disaster ? didn't you think that Labour under Gordon Brown would be better then a Tory party winning. Why did you waste your vote , and why do you waste your time posting such rubbish ....... to sum up your a total waste of space on here .

Fred1new - 25 Apr 2012 21:33 - 16380 of 65466


I think it must be past your bed time.

Why not go and have a nice lie down.

TANKER - 26 Apr 2012 10:55 - 16381 of 65466

listening to this LEVESON inquiry . it is a joke just wasteing tax payers money what recession.

so when is DAVID KELLY going have a public inquiry.
which is far more important he was murdered by ?.
as for leveson he must be a right wing tory with what he says .

TANKER - 26 Apr 2012 10:59 - 16382 of 65466

how many MILLIONS as it cost this LEVESON INQUIRY . and the problem being is that NO one will go to prison or be fined.
it is just to get back at the news papers for exposing the MPs ripping the tax payers
OFF with bogus claims.

mnamreh - 26 Apr 2012 11:11 - 16383 of 65466


ahoj - 26 Apr 2012 11:28 - 16384 of 65466

These inquires keep them busy, appearing as being productive!!!. I think there should be a clear definition of crime and criminal, then these guys won't need to waste BBC time to talk rubbish.

Ken Livingston didn't waste his time when he appeared there. That's the right way.

TANKER - 26 Apr 2012 12:33 - 16385 of 65466

back to pensions . any one now saving for there retirement by putting money into a pension fund are complete fools I did not put money into this rip off funds and retired at 54 and my money I saved is still worth more now than when I retired .and if I want to have the cash it takes me about 10 mins in my account .
it is not very smart to put money in other peoples hands .
but the gov want you to.but they are liars and thiefs

Fred1new - 26 Apr 2012 12:46 - 16386 of 65466


I think Kelly did recognise consensus opinion but I think he believed in the principle of honest professional opinion and not bowing to the whims of those in political need.

His inquest while not revealing what the public would like to have known, brought in the only sensible verdict.


The Hutton enquiry was, I think, was a white wash.

I think Leveson opinion will be that of an independent minded professional lawyer.

I must admit I admire the doggedness of Leveson and Hay and their ability to allow some witnesses with a little help to hang themselves.

The "public" findings of the enquiry may lead to further necessary clean ups of politics.


At least may lead to the diminished power of Murdock and may even bring about Cameron's early departure from the political scene,

But interested in results of criminal proceedings over the coming months,


Shortie - 26 Apr 2012 13:03 - 16387 of 65466

That would be lovely to see Cameron go, can't stand the idiot. Mind you theres no one really to replace him with. Ed Milliband is just as bad if not worse, and Nick Clegg doesn't seam to be made of much when he does bother to contribute something. I can see why so many don't bother to vote when theres no one to vote for.

Fred1new - 26 Apr 2012 13:17 - 16388 of 65466

At the moment if you tried to form a coalition government of all the UK parties I think there would be a dearth of talents.

Doubt there is enough capable individuals to form a cabinet.

Mind you could import Alex from Scotland.

TANKER - 26 Apr 2012 13:19 - 16389 of 65466

leveson . is he URIAH HEEP come back to life

aldwickk - 26 Apr 2012 13:22 - 16390 of 65466

Edited reply to Fred's post

" I was taking the proverbial "mickey" once again."

No you wasn't , you are a liar and a pompous self opinionated tosser

Why didn't you vote Labour or any-other party if you thought the Tory's would be such a disaster ? didn't you think that Labour under Gordon Brown would be better then a Tory party winning. Why did you waste your vote , and why do you waste your time posting such rubbish ....... to sum up your a total waste of space on here .

TANKER - 26 Apr 2012 13:35 - 16391 of 65466

charles taylor to go to prison in uk . but it will be a private mansion I expect
costing the uk millions . hang him or send him back to is only people for judgement

ahoj - 26 Apr 2012 13:44 - 16392 of 65466

They should ask anyone in prison to pay for its living cost. They can work at half the minimum wage to pay the cost and learn the lesson. If they are rich, they can pay, even for TV license, etc.

People in prison have better life than many honest people who work full time in this country. I call this "the Criminal Right", a misused form of the human right.

2517GEORGE - 26 Apr 2012 13:47 - 16393 of 65466

TANKER---I have long thought that private pensions were a waste of money and that a cash ISA is a far better option, but discipline is essential. Whilst the last few years may not have been great because interest rates have been low, this will not always be the case. A huge benefit of an ISA over a pension is you don't pay tax on the income, I know there is no inducement to buy an ISA as there is with a pension, but another big plus for an ISA is, the sum accrued is still there for your dependants, not taken by the pension provider.

TANKER - 26 Apr 2012 14:16 - 16394 of 65466

2517. yes but remember the tax you save when you invest is taken away when you draw the pension and when you passaway so does the pension .
but if you do as I did i have control not some slick areswipe fund manager
milking your pot .I am not very educated but unstood the crap of putting my hard earned cash in a worthless pension and one othere side of the plan is . if any of my family dropped on hard times I would give them all the cash .and then claim benefits .
as for the tax of giving money away .they won it at the races . and I lost at the races

mnamreh - 26 Apr 2012 14:21 - 16395 of 65466


ExecLine - 26 Apr 2012 14:35 - 16396 of 65466

My main private pension scheme can admit my kids (two) as members.

Both parents are in it and we have been told it might be prudent to admit one kid when one parent dies and then the other when the last parent dies. Luck of the draw for the kids, I suppose.

This means that the fund can continue to provide pensions, not only for us, whilst we are alive, but in years to come for whoever happens to be a member at that time and is allowed to participate in the value of the fund. But prudency would have to prevail here on what actually is done.

Oh, and

1. We got tax relief on our contributions for filling it up.

2. We got quite large tax free lump sums when we actually retired, approx 20 yrs ago.

3. An Areswiping Fund Manager takes about £2k out of it each year (and probably rising!) but, 'Hey! What the hell!'

4. Tanker is talking a load of bolox, IMHO. I think what he actually means is that some investments can be bad ones, including sometimes, the investments made even in pension funds. Most funds do make annual charges - and why not? Someone somewhere has to manage the fund and if it isn't you, then they have to be paid for doing it. I think he might mean to say, that some fund managers' charges are far too high.
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