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goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Fred1new - 11 May 2012 12:19 - 16681 of 80962


I think method of interrogation is skilful and informative and exposes what many will see as a corruption of "said" democracy.

The costs are unfortunate, but in comparison with the price of a "battle ship" infinitesimal and the future value of the enquiry may be that it leads to some clean up of politics, which is long overdue.

I think the enquiry may prove more valuable than the battleship.

But I do wonder why many seem prepared to devalue and sweep away possible findings of the enquiry.

For me there appears to have been and are continuing "criminal" abuses of power.

(Some of which the present government is trying to cover with smoke screens.)

The abuses are not confined to this tory party leadership, but at the moment they are in the driving seat.

skinny - 11 May 2012 12:32 - 16682 of 80962

mnamreh - 11 May 2012 12:33 - 16683 of 80962


Haystack - 11 May 2012 12:37 - 16684 of 80962

None of it is today's news. Even most of the Cameron references are two years ago. The public cares not a jot about any of this.

greekman - 11 May 2012 12:41 - 16685 of 80962

Hi Mnamreh,

Fully agree, but that does not mean that we should stop giving these abuses of power a good kick in the crutch now and then.

Diplomacy if fine, but when someone is grabbed by the ***** at the same time, if focuses the mind more so.

The end is nigh!

mnamreh - 11 May 2012 13:03 - 16686 of 80962


aldwickk - 11 May 2012 14:01 - 16687 of 80962

I miss read the headline of this story , i can't say the miss read word only black gangsta rapper's can do that without being arrested.

ahoj - 11 May 2012 14:54 - 16688 of 80962

I think the UK banks are gaining market share as a result of the mess European banks are in. Even American banks like JPM are acting stupidly. £1.2bln is not much, but they lost it.

Are JPM positions short or long now? can we get such information?

aldwickk - 11 May 2012 15:09 - 16689 of 80962

Seek and ye shall find

dcb - 11 May 2012 15:40 - 16690 of 80962


you are right. i just found 50p down the back of my sofa. result
ha ha

Fred1new - 11 May 2012 18:08 - 16691 of 80962


One last comment on Leveson enquiry. (For today.)

The public at the moment seem demoralised and politically apathetic.

The reasons being given for their disillusionment is that they think the government and a large percentage of politicians are corrupt and arrogant. Also, they resent the fact that the politician seem to think that they can get a get away with their often "criminal" actions.

From whatever political position you evaluate the evidence already given to the Leveson enquiry, it seems bad to me. If the problems are not seen to be remedied and penalties paid, similar attitudes will percolate down to the "lower" classes, who may think they can get away with other ways of "thieving" or "robbery".

Already, we have seen mass civil disobedience and open criminality once this year.

(Was it copycat, or emulation of what they have seen the political leaders doing in a slightly different way? (An abuse of others.)

If a tree is rotten at the top, the disease, more often not descends, to its roots. Public figures should be seen to be attempting to be cleaner than clean.

The enquiry and its findings may expose problems and possible actions to resolve some of them.

If heads roll, as many expect, so be it. But the results of this enquiry may lead to a cleansing of politics.

Probably, the above is a little hopeful.


Hays, I am surprised by you evaluation of what the public care about.


aldwickk - 11 May 2012 18:13 - 16692 of 80962

You can wake up now ......... his finished posting for the day

Haystack - 11 May 2012 18:20 - 16693 of 80962

Nothing seems to be of any importance so far in the enquiry. It all seems to be a waste of money. Brown doesn't come out of it very well.

doodlebug - 11 May 2012 21:35 - 16694 of 80962

Most of these enquiries are a complete waste of tax payers money. How much is this particular enquiry costing? At the end of the day the Leveson enquiry will probably produce another whitewash and achieve nothing. We listen to a bunch of overpaid legal non-entities wibbling on, enjoying their time on Sky Televison, etc. How much money has this country wasted in the last few years on public enquiries that produce reams of documents which tell us what we know already.

Fred1new - 12 May 2012 09:00 - 16695 of 80962


Perhaps, the enquiries could use E-mails, or even text messages!

If governments wern't corrupt they wouldn't need some of the enquiries.

I suppose you could shortcut them and take out half a dozen MPs and Executives and shoot them every few months,

That would keep the Bs in their places.

Fred1new - 12 May 2012 09:10 - 16696 of 80962

Again what amuses me, is those who claim that we have a democracy and vaunt its qualities resist its necessary investigations.

What they probably mean, is we want "our" form of democracy which allows or keeps us in control.


Though, not to much.


Only one more day before I flee the country.
Rage on.

TANKER - 12 May 2012 15:22 - 16697 of 80962

hundreds of pakistanis at manchester airport looking for flights .out of manchester I wonder why .

TANKER - 12 May 2012 15:23 - 16698 of 80962

there is no spare seats on my plane luck me .

aldwickk - 14 May 2012 10:16 - 16699 of 80962


I remember you , dare I say it ramping up IMAGINATION TECHNOLOGIES on sharecrazy, it must have been 5 years ago now haven't they done well.

Do you remember a poster , I think his name was The Dane , who had developed a software program that was very simple to understand and was about to market it, it seemed to be to be very good.

Do you know if he still post's , and did he bring it to market ?

TANKER - 14 May 2012 13:45 - 16700 of 80962

if you read about mohammed born in ad570 died 632 .
of a violent fever and we not what it was.
he married is wife who was 7 years old and at he age of 9 you no what happend .
so these pakistanis think it is normal to rape young girls . mohammed had hundreds of young girls and it all there to read .
how can you marry a child of 7 is beyond life sick
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