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goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

dreamcatcher - 05 May 2012 15:49 - 16521 of 81456

I think Freds nose must be even longer. :-))

dreamcatcher - 05 May 2012 16:01 - 16522 of 81456

If it was not so serious I would laugh . This picture is all I remember of our Gordon.

dreamcatcher - 05 May 2012 16:04 - 16523 of 81456

another Labour party member with a big nose, oh its mr Blair.

dreamcatcher - 05 May 2012 16:10 - 16524 of 81456

dreamcatcher - 05 May 2012 16:28 - 16525 of 81456

The above, I bet that put a smile on your face fred or perhaps not. :-))

Haystack - 05 May 2012 17:31 - 16526 of 81456

This is the picture of Gordon that I remember.

aldwickk - 05 May 2012 17:34 - 16527 of 81456


The euro ?

aldwickk - 05 May 2012 17:37 - 16528 of 81456

i think this is one post of mine which Fred might agree with

dreamcatcher - 05 May 2012 17:40 - 16529 of 81456

Yep aldwickk and Haystack and without any words the next picture sums up the Labour party. Oh just put an S on the end. lol

Haystack - 05 May 2012 17:54 - 16530 of 81456

I can remember plenty of Labour governments and they all leave the country in debt. Their policies are 'tax and spend' and when the public get sick of that they implement their standby policiy 'borrow and spend'. Until Blair, who managed to fool the public for longer than usual, Labour have been in for one term only each time. It only takes the public that long to refresh their memories of why they don't like a Labour government. Now they have the two Jedwards who look like been unelectable unless they manage to hide their real policies.

dreamcatcher - 05 May 2012 18:13 - 16531 of 81456

Agree and whats more not a lot to show for the debt. Mr average is not eating now
or struggling to pay the utility bills.

Chris Carson - 05 May 2012 20:30 - 16532 of 81456

Yo DC, go easy on Fred, he can't help it! He's Welsh you know :O) Which probably explains it. Respect mate you nailed him. MORRRRE MORRRRE :O)

dreamcatcher - 05 May 2012 20:45 - 16533 of 81456

Just read what you said Chris with one eye shut and one half open, as not sure what you was going to say. :-)) Mind you I did like post 16531 lol. Have a bit of the labour party in your pipe and smoke it Fred.

Chris Carson - 05 May 2012 21:38 - 16534 of 81456

Aye you beat me to it, how he has the audacity to mention silver after Gordons gold gaff defies belief. Have a good weekend mate.

dreamcatcher - 05 May 2012 21:54 - 16535 of 81456

Cheers Chris. Day after day of David Cameron - Atleast you can turn the television over ? lol . WERE ON POST 16536 OR 537 NOW AND 16000 MUST HAVE A MENTION OF DAVID CAMERON IN THEM. So much more in the world to talk about, is there not.
Well perhaps theres not :-)) rant over.

aldwickk - 05 May 2012 22:58 - 16536 of 81456

Boris for PM

TANKER - 06 May 2012 07:27 - 16537 of 81456

the conservative party as been destoyed by CAMERON AND OSBORNE they need to be replaced as soon as possible or we will be wiped out at the next election myself and my family are right wing torys but we are going to vote UKIP .

OSBORNE on pensioner allowance robbed them to pay the rich DISGUSTING the man is very DISHONEST a liar

aldwickk - 06 May 2012 10:09 - 16538 of 81456

This is more interesting

This week the University of Sheffield announced results of experiments which promulgate Darwin's 'survival of the fittest' theory. Scientists claim we humans continue to be subject to the forces and whims of natural selection like other species.

"We have shown advances have not challenged the fact that our species is still evolving just like all the other species 'in the wild,'" posited Dr Virpi Lummaa, from the University of Sheffield's department of animal and plant sciences. "It is a common misunderstanding that evolution took place a long time ago, and that to understand ourselves we must look back to the hunter-gatherer days of humans."

The study, however, was nebulous in terms of expressing precisely what 'evolutionary changes' they found from the church records of almost 6,000 Finns born between 1760 and 1849.

An interesting experiment and indeed correct in that we are still evolving, however to attribute it to the Victorian, matter-based, Darwinian model of evolution is backward-thinking and flawed given the recent leaps and bounds in metaphysical sciences and physical historical evidence disproving linear evolution. The ideology we randomly mutated from ocean slime to our knuckle-dragging neanderthal long-long lost cousins to our current incarnation is one that's been dogmatically accepted into mainstream evolutionary hegemony without challenge until recent years.

"If you take Darwinian theory, make a 'scientific' principal out of it, put it into political action, then you have something like Nazi Germany" states the pioneering Dr Bruce Lipton, author of Spontaneous Evolution. Lipton believes it's 'cooperation not competition' which are the hallmarks of most natural orders.

Speaking in context of the current human-related environmental destruction of the planet, "Much of this is related to the concept of us having arrived here as accident, when in fact it's the opposite, there was purpose and design in the process. The relevance is that when we bought into the Darwinian theory we bought into a way of life that's based on survival of the fittest, but the actual theory of evolution is survival of those that cooperate."

But if Darwin was wrong, that beardy fella on a cloud must have made us, right? Well, no.

The latest science suggests we are intelligently designed - not by some sentient humanistic being from on high - moreover a higher, energetic, source intelligence. Einstein's Unified Field theory equation was completed in 2007. The breakthrough proves everything: matter (which derives from energy, which is what we're made from) all natural laws and processes link to one underlying, unifying consciousness - aka, God, Source, Allah, Yaweh - pick your favourite.

According to John Hagelin, leading particle and quantum physicist, "Everything that's been discovered about the universe in modern science for the last 3 centuries can be systematically derived from the Unified Field's compact expression. The self interacting dynamics of unity at the basis of life's' diversity."

"The space between things isn't empty, it's full" claims maverick physicist Nassim Haramein whose groundbreaking expansion of the Unified Field theory is changing the face of physics as we know it. "We're bathing in energy which is the fundamental source of all creation. This was known by ancient civilisations but was lost due to the advancements of physics. My theories are starting to show the source of everything, all the material world, is mostly space. It's the medium that connects all things."

Quantum physicist Amit Goswami PhD supports the existence of a God consciousness, "The evidence for God is within us, but to see it we have to be subtle. To live it, we have to grow. Mystics, contrary to religionists, are always saying that reality is not two things - God and the world - but one thing, consciousness. The problem with science has always been that most scientists believe that science must be done within a different monastic framework, one based on the primacy of matter. Quantum physics showed us that we must change that myopic prejudice of scientists, otherwise we cannot comprehend quantum physics."

The problem with the Darwinian vs Creationist altercation is because it's so polarised. Atheists feel obliged to cling onto the Darwinian model because until now the only answer was a religious, faith-based one which they negate. Trouble is, in our logical, left-brain thinking society we view religious and ancient texts as literal rather than metaphorically encoded, hence their denunciation. For the sake of its remembrance, truth was often encrypted in fables, myths and legends. The highly-charged, energised space between things Haramein speaks of is what the ancients - and religious - call spirit.

One explicit way in which mankind is evolving for sure is in terms of our consciousness. From the Arab Spring, to #Occupy, to other measured dissent, there is a huge global shift and awakening to the corrupt, control system matrix we've been locked into for so long.

The Maya, who were acute astronomers, mathematicians and scientists knew this and their precise Long Count calendar not just tracked time, but evolution of consciousness. The much discussed end of it being December 21st 2012. Contrary to Hollywood fear-mongering, it doesn't connote the 'end of the world', moreover the transition into a more enlightened, evolved age.

Engineer and scientist Maurice Cotterell studied the Mayan cycles of human evolution and discovered they corresponded remarkably with his sunspot cycles of magnetic emissions. "Research was carried out confirming modulating magnetic fields caused genetic mutations in developing cells in test tubes." Begins Cotterell. "Here we have the mechanism whereby the sun's radiation affects the magnetic field of the earth then the magnetic field of the earth shuttles up the genes."

Everything is energy - including us. Life is the interaction of magnetic vibrational fields and our evolution is subject to the cosmos, not random selection. There have been peak sunspot emissions and coronal mass ejections in 2012 so it's little surprise humankind is awakening.

Unlike Darwin, the Maya, ancient Hindus and Hopi Indians recognised evolution/time as cyclical. There is overwhelming global, physical evidence that vast, advanced civilisations preceded us: the technology in which to create, many of today's engineers assert we do not possess.

Off the coast of Yonaguni Japan, India and Cuba there are giant sunken megalithic sites and pyramidal structures. In Bosnia Europe's first pyramid was discovered and dated to 10,000 years plus. Geologist Dr Robert Schoch has accurately dated the Sphinx to be 7-9,000BC - throwing our mainstream historical timeline into chaos and in need of serious re-writing.

Despite our spiritually-impotent, techno-worshipping race's arrogance that we're the height of all that's ever been, we are not actually the apex of human evolution, as Darwin's linear theory would have us believe. Primordial soup was never our ancestor. Dr Lummaa's archaic suggestion we should, "look back to the hunter-gatherer days of humans" to understand ourselves is dangerously reductionist. Yes the past can inform us, but by limiting our evolutionary learning using an old-world paradigm will only hinder progress. We can waste time searching for Darwin's 'missing link', but it will never be found.

Fred1new - 06 May 2012 13:51 - 16539 of 81456

Just noticed Cameron's Barmy Army led by Colonel Hays and Corporal Dreams are back again.
They must be happy with the results of recent elections, seen as a non-endorsement of their policies.
Shouting the rehearsed mantras is attempting to divert attention from their own failures by pointing and blaming others, but seemingly unable to realise that they are responsible for the increasing financial chaos.
The results of the elections would suggest less of the public are being conned by their propaganda, especially with the loss of media propaganda.
It was Boris and the Evening Standard “what won it!), not the present tory “Posh Boys”.
(Mind, Boris is not exactly a peasant, but that description is sticking to the cabinet.)
Interesting the tory left and right are sniping at their leadership as being out touch with party roots.

Suggest a little honey fungus is affecting them at ground level.
Gold sell off!
George is borrowing £150 billion more.
Get a few primers on economics and read and inwardly digest and then have a look at the 1930s and the reasons for some of the thinking and theory about its introduction. (Or perhaps read The Wizard of Oz.)
Go back to its introduction in the 1970's by Nixon to finance the Vietnam War and the failed attempt to defeat the Vietnamese North, and consider it as trying to write off the colossal cost of that war. Even consider why America lost that War and later Armed Adventures, Iraq, Afghanistan etc. Even though, they produced devastation in those countries. (Clinton’s statement “It is the economy stupid. Apply, the same to what I think was a justifiable war i.e. WW2 and Britain collapsed post war economy.)
Also, look at the increased economic flexibility that leaving the gold standard has given.
Also look at the groups most opposed to the change from the gold standard, who mainly consist of the "money lenders" and those who benefit the most from "money transactions".
The change from the Gold Standard produces its own "problems and dangers".

But the loss of reflects the devaluation of the British economy, destruction of manufacturing bases (Maggie's period) and too much reliance on the Financial Services and the "corruption" of the latter.
But the problems and dangers "can" be avoided by responsible non egocentric policies, but that necessitates a competent government, which at the moment we don't have.
Notice they maybe a move to economic stimulus of rather than austerity over the next months, especially if F. Hollande is elected.
By the way not against “capitalism” in practice, but want to see it harnessed with responsibilities and profits more evenly distributed and the trend to personal greed controlled in pratice.


What will be interesting is to see the effect of the "Murdock Press and Media" turning on its previous allies and cohorts.
The Leveson enquiry could be quite revealing of the arrogant disregard for decent standards by the political elite. The tory failure at the select committee to denounce the Murdochs, was, perhaps, a non-appealing attempt at a covert appeal for clemency from the Murdochs not slay them. )


Phew, glad that is over.

We live in interesting political times.

Fred1new - 06 May 2012 15:22 - 16540 of 81456

Never mentioned Cameroon on the "other" site.
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