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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:02 - 2 of 12602

If we exit : this illegal immigration can be stopped....that's a plus in my opinion....

jimmy b - 03 Feb 2016 10:07 - 3 of 12602

And all the meddling with all out laws etc etc , VOTE OUT !!!!!!

jimmy b - 03 Feb 2016 10:11 - 4 of 12602

For all the outists among us ..

required field - 03 Feb 2016 13:23 - 5 of 12602

I'm starting to feel that way because I cannot see any benefits for the ordinary man in the street in remaining in the common market as it far : there has not been a list of good points for or against Europe as it is by anybody.....the common market as it stands is perhaps good for exporting companies claiming vat and such but for the average person in the UK being part of it brings no avantages at all.....immigration is out of hand...Brussels is costing us a fortune.....supposedly we can go to any country in the EU and work there...same for them...are you going to work in Bulgaria ? they are coming here....would it make any negative difference to the average family if the case came to opting out ? my opinion it wouldn't but we would be able to put in place strict border controls...repatriate back undesirables and such....loads of things could be done...including perhaps renegotiation of a very different common market.....

required field - 20 Feb 2016 09:43 - 6 of 12602

Still haven't made my mind border controls within the EU is not a ggod idea....some migrants yes but each one has to be vetted....if you take a look at some of the wannabe immigrants : you take a fright !....

required field - 21 Feb 2016 20:11 - 7 of 12602

Nobody has come up with a list of how much it will cost (I mean a detailed list) to each person leaving in Britain if we stay in or if we opt out...I mean groceries...petrol/diesel/gas...utilities...transport/ the moment : everybody is in the dark as what will happen....and when...all you hear is the overall call vote out or remain in.....let's have some figures and facts/costs ....

Stan - 21 Feb 2016 20:26 - 8 of 12602

Leave it to me RF.. I'm on the case -):

kernow - 21 Feb 2016 21:06 - 9 of 12602

There are three kinds of lies, lies, damn lies and statistics. Both camps will try to seduce us with figures to suit their cause. For me the deciding issue is our inability to deport career criminals and whatever fudge is made to the Human Rights Convention the UK can never be anything other than subject to the jurisdiction of the European Court of Human Rights whose bonkers judgements have cost us a fortune in legal costs for both sides and a lifetime of benefits for the scum allowed to remain because the human rigths of the majority are over ruled time and again. Rant over.

Stan - 22 Feb 2016 08:54 - 10 of 12602

The bosses of about half of Britain's 100 biggest companies are to sign a letter backing David Cameron in his fight to keep the country in the EU in the referendum in June that will shape the future of the UK. As Tory opposition to the prime minister's strategy mounted, Downing Street rallied the backing of corporate leaders at companies including Shell, BAE Systems, BT and Rio Tinto, who will argue in the letter that Britain is "stronger, safer and better off" in a reformed EU. - Financial Times.

jimmy b - 22 Feb 2016 09:29 - 11 of 12602

It'a cheap labour for a lot of the big companies .

Stan - 22 Feb 2016 09:39 - 12 of 12602


required field - 27 Feb 2016 19:43 - 13 of 12602

I frankly think that (even though I'm still undecided) that the UK will vote to remain in the's the uncertainty of what opting out offers that will tip the balance in favour of the common market....the bookies think so as well.....

Juzzle - 27 Feb 2016 22:26 - 14 of 12602


Being part of a planet is enough. A planet with hundreds of countries, most of whom are not in. We don't need to be part of a clique.

I never like unnecessary additional tiers of government; they all cost money. Money that comes from all of us and is soaked up by thousands of administrative staff and hundreds of plane flights back and forth by politicians. Hotel expenses galore. And so many committees spending thousands of hours making decisions that don't need making - just for something to do.

Scrap the whole wasteful game. It's as pointless as the wretched Eurovision Song Contest

dreamcatcher - 27 Feb 2016 22:28 - 15 of 12602

The Eurovision contest is good. Roll on May. :-))

Juzzle - 29 Feb 2016 08:23 - 16 of 12602

Wow. Mervyn lands a mighty punch:

ex Bank Of England governer forecasts EU collapse

required field - 03 Mar 2016 20:42 - 17 of 12602

I think that most people don't know which way to vote....I am very much in two minds....I am angry at the common market for not clamping down on this illegal immigration....I have nothing against those who have a legitimate right of abode in the UK ...but the migrant issue is getting out of hand....

dreamcatcher - 03 Mar 2016 21:10 - 18 of 12602

Express today - In a massive rebuff to the Prime Minister, a survey of almost 150,000 people found around nine out of ten want the UK to withdraw from the European bloc.

Last night, of 148,577 votes cast an astonishing 87 per cent - around 129,261 - said that they will vote to leave the EU in the referendum planned for June 23.

Just 10 per cent - 14,857 - will vote to remain while three per cent are still undecided.

grannyboy - 03 Mar 2016 21:46 - 19 of 12602

Seeing as 'Call me Dave' along with many others in Brussels is pushing for Turkey to be fast tracked into the EU, having the prospects of another 75 million immigrants rushing over the continent to get to the UK is horrendous...You've also got several other countries wanting to join, ALL low wage earning countries like Bosnia., etc...

rekirkham - 03 Mar 2016 23:30 - 20 of 12602

If I have a vote ( I live in Spain now ) I would vote OUT. It seems we are subsidizing these nations in the EU and the bloated Eurocrats in Brussels and elsewhere.
In spite of the fear tactics we are hearing I think we would be a richer country OUT.
We could still have EU relationships for internal security, and environment issues, etc, which would be mutually beneficial and they need our trade as much or more than we need EU trade. The £ has fallen a little recently because of this uncertainty, but I doubt it will fall to Euro levels ( Greece - disaster, Turkey want in EU, Spain unemployment problem, France not so great economically, and Germany may soon have political problems after Merkel goes, is there an EU country prospering just now ? ) Do not listen to Cameron, he has to say he has done a good job getting better conditions from EU and the Chancellor needs to support him - better we are OUT and our own boss again I say. Maybe Money AM can arrange tick boxes or something for IN or OUT ?

Stan - 03 Mar 2016 23:54 - 21 of 12602

People living in other Countries having a vote on what we want or don't want in this Country?

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